The Kennedy Dynasty was Fake

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They were a pretty despicable bunch - with the exception of Bobby. Well, Robert Kennedy was O.K., oddly enough, cause - growing up - he was seen as weak, therefore he developed real compassion for people. See how the best comes out of what's seen as the worst? :)

If Bobby said he was concerned about racial minorities, I believe it. If Bobby said he was a committed Catholic, I would believe it!

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Post by slooroo » 2 weeks ago

JFK is honestly a really overrated President and some of the problems attributed to LBJ was partly JFK's doing like the Vietnam War but FDR once noted that sometimes America needs a hero and I think JFK was ultimately built to serve that purpose.

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I think history is very forgiving of JFK because he was a handsome, charismatic man who died tragically.
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One of my favorite JFK facts we discussed in college. In his debate with Richard Nixon he was actually losing all of the arguments in terms of facts but because Nixon was nervous, sweating, and muttering while JFK stayed calm, cool, collected, and spoke with a confident voice the American people found JFK more Presidential.

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Yeah, Nixon had absolutely no charisma, and that was his biggest downfall. He was actually quite moderate for his time period, and most of his crimes were relatively minor compared to what mainstream politicians get away with today. A lot of that, in my opinion, has to do with the fact that the media is now controlled by a very small number of corporations that will not rat out their own.
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He was actually quite moderate for his time period
This reminds me that in the Kaiserreich mod Nixon can become President at a much younger age than he did in our timeline and in an alternative universe where authoritarianism is widespread, even in America, Nixon being reasonable is hilarious.

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Yeah, Nixon had absolutely no charisma, and that was his biggest downfall.
What does that matter? He won by a landslide in 72 (right before Watergate)! :-D

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What does that matter? He won by a landslide in 72
The Democrat ticket was split due to George Wallace running and winning the Deep South away from Humphrey. Not to mention everyone was sour with the Democrats anyway due to "My penis is so awesome" LBJ. The Republicans could've honestly run a potato and won.

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Yeah, Nixon had absolutely no charisma, and that was his biggest downfall.
What does that matter? He won by a landslide in 72 (right before Watergate)! :-D
It matters to a lot of people. Many of them don't care about the issues and just want a leader who can speak well and looks good.
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Many of them don't care about the issues and just want a leader who can speak well and looks good.
This is also an important thing to note. To use a modern example I honestly don't think a good percentage of voters care about anything Donald Trump is for or against. They just like that he comes off as extremely cocky and confident and takes command of everything. On the other side of the coin Barack Obama was popular due to being handsome and charismatic even if his actual policies were just a continuation of the Bush Administration.

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